When I attempted to make a transfer using the Phala dashboard, a critical system behavior issue occurred. Instead of protecting users by rejecting an invalid cross-chain transfer (KSM address G4bsXhKHQ4v1o5TRdqRfB2Crvau8qSWAoNcfgKKgDYhs7St ) , the system automatically generated a Khala address linked to this KSM address and locked 8,849 PHA tokens in this inaccessible location.
Original Address (41x1etEFF1Lc7vLnErX1sqSYyco3iTfXLruFiewnqmNH6n5X)
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Attempted transfer to KSM address (G4bsXhKHQ4v1o5TRdqRfB2Crvau8qSWAoNcfgKKgDYhs7St)
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System auto-generated Khala address (44757Jrc3YZGPSQSnYU6EQU6xWb8fy55T8tHtpKkeACMjxAU)
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8,849 PHA now locked in inaccessible address
The following evidence demonstrates this is a system-level issue:
This situation demonstrates a system-level flaw rather than user error for several reasons:
The full technical sequence shows how the system created this unrecoverable situation:
Initial Attempt:
System's Automatic Address Generation:
Result of System's Actions:
Required Recovery Path:
Other prominent blockchain networks have already established how to handle these situations:
The situation requires timely action because:
This recovery action serves both individual justice and system integrity, preventing permanent loss from a system-generated error while following established blockchain governance precedents.
I remain available to answer any questions you may have about this proposal. Please feel free to ask for any clarifications needed in the comments.
How did you generate the KSM address? Do you have it on a browser wallet, mobile wallet, or a hardware wallet? You may have the access to the fund right now.
I'm totally suporting this request from an old user of Khala. Kucoin should solve the problem but they refuse to help. So the token would be lost, in this case we should help him to recover his PHA.
Gatorkorps
Kucoin just don't want to help (but in general they are able to recover those funds).
I'm against forced transfers. But if someone official from Kucoin wrote he accept forced transfer from their account I could vote Aye.
Sadly I don't believe they will do that - as it opens way for violations in future.
A Solemn Statement to the Phala Community:
I come forward with complete transparency. For two years, I have patiently worked through proper channels to resolve this situation. The French Phala ambassadors support my case, and I have consistently demonstrated my commitment to transparency by sharing my real identity through the Google Drive documentation provided above. I have:
These are my tokens. I am not trying to take anything from anyone. The system created an address that no one can access, and this can be verified through the blockchain.
After providing such extensive documentation, including my personal identity, and following every proper procedure for two years, I must ask: Why are some still refusing to help? What are the real motivations behind this resistance when all evidence has been provided and verified?
I have played by every rule, been completely transparent about my identity and claims, and yet still face resistance. This raises serious questions about the true reasons behind this opposition.
Unfortunately i don't have PHA anymore to support the proposal.
I can understand that chains don't necessarly want to open a 1st case for such events, but it's a the only option here.
Bifrost did it for few rare cases, especially in the early days when cross-chain transfers where in their infancy and when people made mistakes. CEX won't even notice it moreover.
As long as the community agrees to it, on a decentralized chain, it's not anymore on the CEX hand, especially when the CEX acts badly with no intention to help users.
As long as the user can prove the ownership of the origin address and ackowledging that Kucoin won't do anything even if it's technically feasible on their, and considering the chain is going to be halted, i do not understand why we would deny the force_transfer.
I also endorce Laurent on his request to retain his PHA, he's a known user in the eco.
Thomas - Community Lead Bifrost
A message of gratitude and reflection:
I sincerely thank everyone who supported my proposal. Though it appears headed for defeat, your support means a great deal.
This outcome raises concerning questions about decentralization and governance in crypto:
This situation reflects broader issues in crypto governance:
The 8,849 PHA tokens will be inaccessible after Khala deprecation - a loss that serves no one's interests. The lack of response to emails and support requests from the team is particularly disappointing.
Special thanks to the French ambassadors and all who supported transparent, fair governance. ❤️"
Due to technical constraints, I was unable to edit the proposal before the voting phase. Therefore, I would like to provide the following clarifications in this comment