Proposal #21

Untitled - public proposal #21

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You state that "Phala are blocked on this Khala address which does not belong to anyone!"
but we can see on polkaholic that there is tx on KSM for this account
so the address exists
can you give some details about the address, where you found it and how you eventually transfered some funds on it ?

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I give here all my conversations with kucoin:
they say well that the address khala 44757Jrc3YZGPSQSnYU6EQU6xWb8fy55T8tHtpKkeACMjxAU
is not belong to kucoin .
And they can't access my funds.
My 8849 Phala therefore belong to no one.

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Based on the on-chain information, it appears that the wrong address you transferred to is the same address as the one provided by Kucoin, but in a different format. I understand that it is a frustrating situation. We will assist you in contacting Kucoin for a possible refund of the tokens, but the final decision remains with Kucoin, after all, they have their own technical system, which may indeed make it impossible to refund through conventional transfers.

As for the proposal, I hold a neutral stance. Force transfers may infringe on the token holder's ownership, and it should not be recommended. Its still being there is because we need to keep the final solution for a serious technical issue, but it should not be a regular action. Let's leave it to the community. Hopefully, a more amicable solution can be found.

In conclusion, I want to reiterate the importance of taking precautions to safeguard your accounts and personal information. It is crucial to keep your mnemonic phrases secure and exercise caution when transferring funds to others. Always double-check the receiving address and verify that you are using the correct transfer method.
In a decentralized world, the responsibility for ensuring security ultimately lies with yourself.

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I don't know what to think of this proposal.
On the one hand, I think for mainstream use, it's good to be able to correct errors when possible (the error is human) and on the other hand, I hope it's not the same user who created this referendum and those of Bifrost (it would mean that he does not really learn from these mistakes!). Are you also at the origin of the referendums on bifrost?


I agree with Doyle on this one and I'm not happy to see forced transfers from wallets. If you made a mistake, you have to put on your big boy pants, accept it and learn from it. It's blockchain tech, not a bank. I therefore vote Nay for this.


I agree with Doyle. Although technically it's possible to force transfer the token back. It's not a good idea to use the referenda for an individual's accidental transfer.